This One's Just For Carmel
Turns out you've been sinning this whole time:
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?" 1 Cor. 14:33b-36 NIV
Now I know there will be arguments about how this was meant to be specific to the time, or different interpretations of what it meant. However, should anyone choose that road to refute this, you are opening a whole new door. A thought process that indicates we can pick and choose what to believe from the bible or interpret as fits our needs. If the bible is open to interpretation, then you must allow that rule for all aspects.
posted by Anonymous at 9:17 AM
7 Comments:
I would have normally loved to tell you about this but you are making this too personal, "turns out you have been sinning this whole time" what kind of a person are you? I am aware that i'm a sinner, never claiming to be holy or perfect. ( but geeze thanks for reminding me)
I have a lot of things to say regarding this post but, you either get angry and insulting to the opposition, or now as it seems point at me as the big bad sinner.
I saw myself at first having a great time in our debates, I found things for you and tried to be fair, until of course you started calling it nothing.
So without mutual respect, I call our debates history.
And refuse to be pointed at this way by you.
I can take huge debates on and it takes alot to back me down, until of course the "personal attack" comes into it.
You are too immature for my likes.
12:41 PM
I would be happy to talk to you, debate with you and answer questions anytime if you would show some respect and not use personal attacks.
10:27 PM
Calling a Catholic a sinner? Now that's calling the kettle black!
What were you hoping for, anyway?
8:17 AM
Should rename this blog to Carmel.vs.johnnydragon.blogspot.com
lol
9:00 AM
I'm not being blasphemous that letter in Corinthians, is addressed to the Church of Corinth, the women were being terribly disruptive in Church, so Paul (if I recall right it was Paul, i'm not using my bible at the moment) called for some order.
Women are to look for input and leadership from the man, I agree with that.
The same goes for the man being head of the household, I go with that too, so I deny none of these biblical teachings.
1 Corinthians 14 vs 10
"There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification."
Don't you think this verse is talking about everyone?
Verse 33-36
"For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"
Again, it's mans position to lead in Church and women are to keep from being disruptive, as they were being at that time.
2:07 PM
I like Jon's comment. I also want to say, that as much as I'm disappointed JDragon won't be contributing anymore, I'm glad there won't be anymore "Just for Carmel" posts. I'd like to feel invited to my own blog, after all.
It's a shame it took such a personal direction. I think Johnny must have really been feeling frustrated or aggravated to author in this fashion, and I can only hope his departure from the godconference brings its own measure of happiness to him.
I, for one, would like to see him come back if he ever feels like the debationary aspects of this blog can be just about competing ideas instead of competing people.
6:00 PM
I would like to see him back too, I don't hold anything personal toward him, I thought he gave me great challenges and I told him that I will be happy to answer and talk to him whenever.
Never did I disrespect him or intend to give him any frustrations. Ok once I told him he was immature and I take that back, that was after he called me a sinner because i'm already living with my sins and to have someone point the finger really upset me and maybe it shouldnt have, but for a person who is trying her best to be right (and it's a huge struggle) being pointed at as the sinner can be really hurtful, but i'm not a person to hold on to it and I forget it and we are all adults here I would like to think.
I don't regard myself as high and mighty because i'm a Christian and he's an Athiest, I see him the same as me and see you all the same.
I hope he has not left because of me.
If you read this JOhnny, as much as I frustrated you (and you attacked me) I would be interested in having you back. Will ya come back?
10:15 PM
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